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A very interesting and thought provoking rebuttal. The concept of history as cyclical is also present in Walter M. Miller's majestic sci-fi novel "A Canticle for Leibowitz." I think that the "long defeat" and "long victory" need not be an "either or" dilemma but a "both and" synthesis is possible. From the perspective of a human lifetime, history may look like a long defeat, when it is really a series of repeated risings and fallings (as in "Leibowitz") until the final Unveiling ("Apocalypse") at the End of history. At some times in history it is best to make a tactical retreat from the World, like St. Benedict and the other founders of Western monasticism, only to advance in a counteroffensive at the right moment. I'm actually working on an article along these lines for another website. I've really enjoyed reading this discussion. Many thanks to both authors!

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